Timeline for Please, don't close questions as unclear because of bad english. Repair them instead
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| Jul 4, 2014 at 15:08 | comment | added | Jim | @PeterHorvath Nobody here would disagree that if you do understand what the OP is asking, you should edit the question and not close. We generally only use "unclear" as a reason when it truly is unclear what they are asking. But in the end, you cannot force someone to better understand something they find unclear or confusing. The only thing you personally can do is wait until you get 3k+ rep and try to edit more than you close yourself. | |
| Jul 4, 2014 at 15:06 | comment | added | Jim | @PeterHorvath Unclear questions do get reopened when they are made clear. And close votes can be reversed. When a question is edited before closed, I revoke my close vote if I had one. I have also often voted to reopen an edited unclear question and I see many of them get fully reopened. But we usually cannot edit the question ourselves because as Manishearth said, we often cannot begin to guess at the OP's intentions. | |
| Jul 3, 2014 at 14:01 | comment | added | Manishearth Mod | (The discussion is about questions written in imperfect English. These are a minority, using the overall closed stats doesn't prove anything) | |
| Jul 3, 2014 at 14:00 | comment | added | Manishearth Mod | And the reason that ratio is there is because as a mod I avoid unilaterally closing, but I will reopen more often. Most of our closed questions are homework, and they never get improved enough to get anywhere. A non-1:1 ratio is normal for a non-mod, I would say. | |
| Jul 3, 2014 at 14:00 | vote | accept | peterh | ||
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| Jul 3, 2014 at 13:59 | comment | added | Manishearth Mod | @PeterHorvath Again, I have access to the reopen queue history. The full history, not just the stats. I know what I'm talking about. | |
| Jul 3, 2014 at 13:57 | comment | added | peterh | I checked your reopening vote log, and the proprotion of your "leave closed" / "reopen" votes are around 1:1. That means, that you aren't a robo-closer. Other reviewers are. Believe me - I tried this a lot times already. I edited the question as it was wished, I tried to contact the close-voters, but I never reached anything. Never. | |
| Jul 3, 2014 at 13:54 | comment | added | Manishearth Mod | I've spent a fair amount of time watching the reopen queue do its job (I can see reopen history) when it first came into existence, and multiple times after that just to check if it was working. Even I've had concerns that it might be robo reviewed -- but it isn't. You haven't seen the history, don't you dare tell me "you know this, I know this" -- you don't know what I know. I know the state of the reopen queue very well, and it's not what you say it is. | |
| Jul 3, 2014 at 13:51 | comment | added | peterh | Maybe you didn't read my previous comments enough carefully. I suggest to do that. | |
| Jul 3, 2014 at 13:51 | comment | added | Manishearth Mod | @PeterHorvath in most cases it is the OP who can, and nobody else. People leave comments in this case. When a closed question is edited, it automatically goes to the reopen queue, and if the edit is good enough (which is often the case for non-homework closed questions), it gets reopened. | |
| Jul 3, 2014 at 13:50 | comment | added | peterh | The truth is, that an once closed/held question will be never made living again, even if you are working hardly on it. Never. I know this, you know this. The only option to try to reach the robo-closers to a little bit of thinking before their close-close-leave closed-close clicks. | |
| Jul 3, 2014 at 13:49 | comment | added | peterh | Nobody will actually repair an once closed question. If the OP can, and does, he hasn't any possibility to ask the closing people to change their votes. If he somehow does this, these people won't change their vote (I also don't know, why, but a downvote can be removed, but an closing vote never.) And the biggest problem is, that the reopening queue is voted by practically the same robo-closers, and the few fair reviewer are mostly voted down. | |
| Jul 3, 2014 at 13:35 | history | answered | ManishearthMod | CC BY-SA 3.0 |